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Offering online/telehealth trauma informed Conversational Model psychotherapy for diverse adults (18+) who are wishing to better understand themselves and resolve traumatic experiences

BLOG POSTWalking the Unknown Road: Conversational Model PsychotherapyWorking within the Conversational Model of psychoth...
27/02/2026

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Walking the Unknown Road: Conversational Model Psychotherapy

Working within the Conversational Model of psychotherapy, I often imagine each encounter as stepping onto an unknown road with another person. Neither of us knows the exact direction or destination. This shared journey unfolds through dialogue—hesitant at times, searching, often surprising. The path emerges from the rhythm between us, and it is in this unfolding that healing becomes possible.

Russell Meares (2000, 2005), building on the work of Robert Hobson, describes the essence of this approach as “aloneness-togetherness.” This phrase captures the paradox at the heart of therapy: two individuals remain distinct, yet intimately connected. The client is not subsumed into the therapist’s perspective, nor is the therapist a distant observer. Rather, both are present in a relational field where experience can be voiced, witnessed, and reshaped.

Within this space, hidden aspects of the self often find expression. Feelings that were once wordless or fragmented surface in tentative forms—sometimes as fleeting images, sometimes as embodied sensations, sometimes as silences that speak more than words. Crucially, the therapeutic work does not reduce these experiences to clinical categories. Instead, therapist and client collaborate to give them shape, often by finding the right words together. As Stern (2004) reminds us, transformation happens in the immediacy of the present moment, where lived experience can be safely explored and symbolised.

At times, the difficulty does not sit solely within one person but lives between us—in a pause, a missed attunement, or a sudden emotional intensity. These moments are not failures but invitations. By attending to what emerges in the relationship itself, we often discover the very patterns that have long constrained the client’s ability to connect. Naming, exploring, and gently holding these dynamics allows new meanings to crystallise.

The process can feel like co-composing a melody. Client and therapist contribute different notes, sometimes in harmony, sometimes in dissonance. Over time, a rhythm takes form, carrying both voices toward a more stable and expansive relational equilibrium. This act of joint creation is not simply interpretive; it is restorative. It allows the client to experience themselves as alive in relation, not isolated or overwhelmed.

What gives this work its lasting power is that meaning is not imposed from outside but co-created. The client leaves not with the therapist’s truth, but with a new sense of their own voice—heard, recognised, and integrated into a larger narrative of self. In this way, the conversational model offers more than symptom relief: it provides a pathway to a more coherent, enlivened sense of being.

For me, each therapeutic encounter is also unique. No two sessions are ever the same, because there are always two intersubjective voices present—two minds, two hearts—meeting in a living, embodied process. It is impossible to predict what will emerge, and that very aliveness is what makes the work so powerful. To see and be alongside another person’s growth, to witness the unfolding of meaning that was once hidden, is nothing short of a privilege. Again and again, I am reminded that therapy is not only a professional practice, but also a profoundly human one. It is, quite simply, beautiful.

References
Fosha, D. (2000). The transforming power of affect: A model for accelerated change. Basic Books.
Meares, R. (2000). Intimacy and alienation: Memory, trauma and personal being. Routledge.
Meares, R. (2005). The metaphor of play: Origin and breakdown of personal being. Routledge.
Stern, D. N. (2004). The present moment in psychotherapy and everyday life. W. W. Norton & Company.

In therapy we meet the parts of ourselves that have gone unattended — feelings, fears, memories, and secret corners of e...
10/09/2025

In therapy we meet the parts of ourselves that have gone unattended — feelings, fears, memories, and secret corners of experience. Together we explore gently, shining light where it has long been absent. With time and care, these hidden aspects find their place in the self again. A single spark can grow, transforming shadow into a new way of relating — to ourselves, to others, to life.

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Mail: therapy@tobyclark.com.au

In therapy, language becomes more than talk — it’s a living exchange. The pauses, tone, and rhythm of conversation creat...
07/09/2025

In therapy, language becomes more than talk — it’s a living exchange. The pauses, tone, and rhythm of conversation create a space where two people can truly resonate with each other. When words are met and felt, not just spoken, the self begins to feel seen, known, and more fully alive. Healing happens in that resonance, where language carries both meaning and connection.

Every therapy session feels like stepping onto an unknown road. Neither client nor therapist holds the map—the path unfo...
04/09/2025

Every therapy session feels like stepping onto an unknown road. Neither client nor therapist holds the map—the path unfolds through dialogue, moment by moment.

In the conversational model (Meares, 2000), healing arises in this space of aloneness-togetherness: two minds, two hearts, distinct yet deeply connected. Hidden parts of the self begin to emerge—sometimes in words, sometimes in silence, sometimes in the pauses between us.

The process can feel like co-creating a melody. At first tentative, then slowly taking shape, until harmony begins to appear. In this shared rhythm, new meaning is born—not imposed, but discovered together.

Each session is alive. Embodied. Different. To witness someone’s growth on this unknown road is not only healing for them—it is a profound privilege for me. www.tobyclark.com.au

Our sense of self is a story written together, not alone.                                                            In ...
01/09/2025

Our sense of self is a story written together, not alone. In therapy, the self grows through dialogue-where experiences are heard, feelings are named, and connection brings scattered parts into coherence. This process of co-creation is at the heart of healing, a principle central to the Conversational Model. .

How we make meaning together.
28/08/2025

How we make meaning together.

🪞 The Privilege of Giving TherapyThere's a quiet sacredness to the therapy room—a space where vulnerability is honoured,...
24/06/2025

🪞 The Privilege of Giving Therapy

There's a quiet sacredness to the therapy room—a space where vulnerability is honoured, pain is witnessed, and healing is gently held.

Each session is a reminder: it's a privilege to be allowed into another's world. To sit in the 'alone-togetherness' (Hobson), holding space while someone finds their way.

Therapy isn't about fixing. It's about presence. About being with.

✨ Every story I hear changes me a little.
✨ Every silence teaches me something.
✨ Every session deepens my respect for the human spirit.

📖 Read my full blog post: https://www.mindfulsynergi.com/the-privilege-of-giving-therapy-reflections-from-the-room/

Benefits of the CM
15/04/2025

Benefits of the CM

Thinking about therapy? Call Mindful Synergi to enquire about starting your healing journey
03/03/2025

Thinking about therapy? Call Mindful Synergi to enquire about starting your healing journey

What is the conversational model?

The Conversational Model is a psychodynamic psychotherapy developed by Prof. Russell Meares and Dr. Robert Hobson, integrating insights from developmental psychology, cognitive theory, and attachment theory. As a relational model, it focuses on how early relational trauma shapes complex adult psychiatric challenges and how therapy can support healing in the short, medium, and long term.

This model has been specifically developed for chronic and difficult-to-treat psychiatric conditions, including:
✨ Borderline Personality Disorder
✨ Dissociative Disorders
✨ Other Personality Disorders
✨ Treatment-Resistant Depression
✨ Complex Somatic Disorders

With strong research backing, the Conversational Model is one of the most well-validated contemporary psychotherapies, supported by randomised controlled trials showing positive outcomes in the treatment of depression, self-harm, and personality disorders.

💙 Toby, a mental health nurse with 16 years experience in mental health therapist, has his Master’s in Medicine majoring in Trauma-Informed psychotherapy and is now accepting new clients at Mindful Synergi. He is available on Wednesdays.

If you’re seeking compassionate, evidence-based therapy, reach out today. Healing starts with a conversation.

The Conversational Model of Therapy (CMT) is a contemporary form of relational psychotherapy that evolved from psychoana...
03/02/2025

The Conversational Model of Therapy (CMT) is a contemporary form of relational psychotherapy that evolved from psychoanalytic psychotherapy. It integrates aspects of neuroscience, developmental psychology, and linguistics, and is used primarily for treating disorders of self.
CMT is based on the premise that our sense of self develops out of the relationship with our primary caregivers. Optimal psychic development or emotional maturity occurs when these relationships are stable and sufficiently responsive. More specifically, our concept of self develops through relational experiences with the external world. Within CMT this process is known as analogical relatedness.
The Conversational Model focuses on two key areas – the development of self, and the identification and integration of trauma into a coherent sense of self. model

What is psychotherapy? Psychotherapy is a safe supportive space where you can talk through your thoughts, feelings and c...
04/12/2024

What is psychotherapy? Psychotherapy is a safe supportive space where you can talk through your thoughts, feelings and challenges with the training professional. It can help you better understand yourself, build healthier coping skills, and improve your emotional well-being. Whether you’re dealing with stress, anxiety, or just need someone to listen therapy is a step towards healing

Starting therapy can be anxiety provoking. This is especially true for people who have never had therapy before. Many qu...
12/11/2024

Starting therapy can be anxiety provoking. This is especially true for people who have never had therapy before. Many questions enter people minds and hearts which is very normal. Often people can feel that they don't need therapy, or think that no one can help, or perhaps their problems are not worthy of care an attention from another individual.

Sometimes our inner voice can prevent us from reaching out for help. In many ways this is a a survival strategy to prevent us feeling anxious or under threat. New relationships, new ventures, new experiences along a healing journey gives rise to feelings which we may want to avoid. However, as it is true in life, overcoming our initial anxieties will lead to a sense of accomplishment and achievement. Reaching out for help and starting a discussion can be a big step in a positive direction.

We heal together 🩵

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