Talbert Farrier Services

Talbert Farrier Services Talbert Farrier Service specializes in logic based evaluations and custom applications to properly a ~1997 Grad. We now reside in Milan, GA and have 4 children.

Auburn Horseshoeing School- Auburn, AL
~2005 Grad. Midwest Equine Dental Academy- Mount Pleasant, MI
~American Farrier Association - Certified Farrier 2008
~American Association of Professional Farriers-Accredited Professional Farrier 2014
~2013-present; Clinical Farrier- Central Georgia Equine Services- Fort Valley, GA
~ Former Contracted Farrier- Fort Valley State University
~Former assistant instructor- Auburn Horseshoeing School
~apprenticed with the late Herb Schneider CF
~attended Kentucky Horseshoeing School's Cert Prep course- Mt Eden, KY
~attended Dr. Ric Redden's Equine Podiatry course- Versailles, KY July 2012
~attended Dr. Ric Redden's Equine Podiatry course- Versailles, KY June 2022
~Sarasota Polo Club- farrier (9 winter polo seasons)- Sarasota, FL

CE includes-
~Florida Association of Equine Practitioners Equine Foot Symposium- Orlando, FL
~(2-time attendee) International Hoof Care Summit- Cincinnati, OH
~Bluegrass Laminitis Symposium- Louisville, KY
~International Laminitis Conf.- West Palm Beach, FL
~(3-time attendee) American Farrier Association National Convention- Lexington, KY and Chatanooga, TN
~AFA Florida Warm-up contest/clinic- Tampa, FL
~ Multiple day AFA cert prep course- Ponte Vedra, FL
~ Multiple day AFA cert prep course- Murfreesboro, TN
~Former member, Florida State Farriers Association
~Georgia Professional Farriers Association member (not current)
~ AAEP/AFA Vet, Farrier workshop- Athens, GA
~American Farriers Team hands on clinic- Athens, GA
~Zoetis sponsored vet/farrier clinic- Russell Lands, AL
~Georgia Equine Veterinary Services vet/farrier clinic- Canton, GA
~helped organize the first annual Auburn Horseshoeing Clinic- Auburn, AL
~helped organize the first farrier clinic hosted by Central Georgia Equine Services- Fort Valley, GA
-(7-time attendee) East Coast Horseshoe Supply annual clinic. Perry, GA
-Monetta Farrier Supply Spring Fling Farrier clinic in Monetta, SC
-World Championship Blacksmiths Inc comp/clinic in Athens, GA
-GPFA clinics, Perry, GA; Montezuma, GA
-Montgomery Serum Supply farrier clinic in Montgomery, AL
-(3-time attendee) Farriers Depot clinics in Ocala, FL
-Visby's Farrier Supply farrier clinic in Palm Beach, FL
~contests- GPFA annual competition- Athens, GA

I've been working professionally with horses since 1990. Prior to learning to shoe horses, (and for some time after) I worked as a polo groom, exercise rider, polo horse trainer, and player. In this capacity I spent;
-10 summers working for Hidden Hills Polo Farm in Andover, KS owned by former United States Polo Association Chairman Jack Shelton and Mr Larry Arbuckle
-one winter for Hidden Hills Polo (South) in Sarasota, FL
-3 summer/fall seasons for 5 goal professional polo player Kevin Fawcett and Mr Kenny McLean in Point Clear, AL
-& one summer polo season for Mr Roger Redman in Detroit, Michigan

After graduating farrier school I worked for Herb Schneider who's private shoeing practice focused mainly on eventing and dressage horses in east Alabama and west Georgia as well as in the Birmingham area. Herb Schneider was a Master Farrier, an AHSA Judge, and later served as Coach for the Auburn University Equestrian Team. While working for Herb we shod or trimmed most of the horses owned by Auburn University and provided hoof care for many horses brought to the AU School of Veterinary Medicine with a variety of hoof related problems. This experience with creative shoeing methodologies greatly influenced my approach with future difficult cases I would encounter. I assisted Herb with teaching farrier students attending Auburn Horseshoeing School and with preparation, organization and occasionally instruction with an elective class on hoof anatomy and function for future veterinary students at Auburn University. My family has been involved with horses for generations. My great grandfather owned many thoroughbred racehorses and was the President of the Maryland Horseman's Association. Both my grandfather and grandmother were competitive in show jumping and my grandfather also owned TB racehorses and co-founded the Potomac Polo Club in 1956. My uncle played professional polo, managed Hidden Hills Polo farm, trained polo ponies and now owns and trains TB racehorses. My wife worked as a groom for Strawberry Banks Arabians in East Aurora, New York before she transitioned to polo and migrated to Florida to work the winter polo season. She worked as a polo groom for 3 winter seasons in Sarasota, FL and 3 summer seasons in Wichita, KS.

10/27/2025

How do you know what your horse "needs"?
Over the years I've noticed how casually we (horse people) toss around the word "needs". When people say "My horse needs x,y &z", what I hear is "I WANT x,y, & z". ,,,,,,,, I can handle "I want". My brain understands "I want". "I want" doesn't have to make sense. If you said "I want a frisbee nailed to the bottom of the left hoof", I understand the assignment. This is an appeasement transaction. It is your horse. I can't see it from my house. What concern is it of mine? But, if I allow myself to process these words literally, when I hear "My horse needs...." I then want to know how you determined this "need". Are you just repeating what someone told you? A friend? A vet? A farrier? A chiro? What was their explanation? Or, have you been on the internet again? Or is it based on an experience you had? An observation? A theory? If so, I want to hear it. I want to understand how this conclusion was reached. What are we basing this on? One bad experience? Is it based soundly in Anatomy? Logic? Or is this Dumbo's feather?
[For the record it is the same with the phrase "has to have". If I miss out on heaven, I believe hell will be me surrounded by dead horse owners whispering in my ear what their horse "has to have".]
If I do allow myself to absorb the word "need" literally, I'll usually probe further sincerely attempting to work out the origin story behind the claim. I try not to interrogate, but this curiosity is my attempt at humility. I'm inviting an explanation and placing my skepticism on the back burner. You made an absolute statement. By the rules of diplomacy I'm offering an opportunity for you to defend it while I practice being open minded. Why and how have you concluded your horse NEEDS this application?
Here's the thing. I want to believe in what I'm doing. It is mentally difficult to shoe a horse in a way that I do not believe is necessary or warranted. I do that too often. It is transactional, but also annoying and unfulfilling. What I'm really wanting when I'm asking questions about this asserted need is for you to please convince me it's worthwhile and based on something. I am constantly trying to limit my transactional work and devote that time and energy to work I believe in. I don't want to shoe your horse if there is no need for shoes. I don't want to apply egg bars and pads to the hind feet because it had an abscess in the front. I don't want to crush the heels with a wedge shoe because your "friend who knows a lot about horses" said that's what it needs. I don't want to amputate your horse's toe because a vet you saw happened to watch a tik toc video. I don't want to put a heartbar shoe on for a neurologic horse. I don't want to do dumb s**t. But,,,, I have done a ton of dumb s**t, and I'll do more. I gotta eat. That's why when someone tells me what their horse "needs", my brain hears "this is what I want". That makes it transactional. That defines our interaction. My opinion wasn't sought, only my hammer, and thus the consequences aren't going to be my burden. Transactional.
Here's a pro tip to wrap it up. Absolute statements should be made sparingly. As equine professionals we should lead by example. The phrase "perhaps the horse would benefit from..." is preferable. "Perhaps" is not a definite. "Perhaps" is not a knowledge claim. And a benefit is not a necessity. Many things can be a benefit that are not required. The phrase "perhaps the horse would benefit from" keeps our arrogance in check.

10/24/2025

Dwarf mini horses often present with severe angular limb deformities. What I have learned from dealing with several (10+) and owning one of the most severe cases I've seen, is that you are better off not trying to "correct" them. I've played around with them, fabricating extensions, forging little aluminum therapeutic shoes, and using urethanes and PMMA's I've built all sorts of creative set-ups. My advice..... don't. The temptation is there, but forcing them to be what they are not only torques the joint and creates discomfort. We are usually compelled to do "something" to please the owner's eye, but we typically don't "fix'" anything with these defects. Instead, with the best of intentions we are just imposing our ideal on anatomy that is abnormal and intolerant of normal. The bigger the correction, the less they like it. I have seen several that are most happy when they are walking on the side of their damn hoof. Force that hoof into a normal stance and they move much worse.... even though it "looks" much better. How many times does this scenario have to repeat before we learn a lesson from it? Dwarves are not common enough for "most" farriers to accumulate the same level of experience they generally have with more common issues. So when they come across the cute twisted legged dwarf, it's always a Kodak moment, and an opportunity to apply some creative bulls**t. Press repeat for the next several appointments, until the preciousness and uniqueness starts to wane and reality starts to set in. That reality is often, "gee willickers, he just seems more comfortable without anything glued to it's hoof..........huh."

They said, you can't shoe out of an SUV. I said 28.1 mpg...... hold my ovaltine.
10/24/2025

They said, you can't shoe out of an SUV. I said 28.1 mpg...... hold my ovaltine.

10/23/2025

There is a dangerous false doctrine being spread on Facebook by one of the hoof trimming cults. They've come to the impressive conclusion that coffin bone rotation (in foundered horses) is due to the unchecked growth of the heels. I s**t you not. And sadly but not surprisingly, horse owners are gobbling it up. This is a perfect example to teach the difference between causation and correlation. Heel growth correlates with P3 rotation, but it does not cause P3 rotation. You'd think that somewhere, someone amongst them would ask "but, but, what is causing the heel growth madam?" Unfortunately no. They don't ask, they just recite the chant without blinking and firmly hold their candle with both hands.

"Squishy pads" the latest thing making the rounds. We have them on a couple cases now. The jury is still out. We will se...
10/17/2025

"Squishy pads" the latest thing making the rounds. We have them on a couple cases now. The jury is still out. We will see how they hold up. Im neutral like Switzerland right now.

10/07/2025

I call this post;

"There is no such thing as "Hoof Balance"
(Bam. How's that to p**s some people off.)
No doubt you've been told how critical hoof balance is. In shoeing school we are all taught how important it is to "balance" hooves. But, even in shoeing school, I was dissatisfied with the explanations surrounding the topic of hoof balance. Over the course of my career my observation has been that the least knowledgeable professionals tend to put the most emphasis on "balance". Usually they are criticizing the previous farrier's work (as unbalanced) or being very performative about their effort to achieve "balance" in order to sell the perception of their skill. (I'm reminded of the words of Inigo Montoya in The Princess Bride who said "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.") This routine is common when these farriers encounter a "new" owner. The skit is often repeated because it works. The new owner leaves happy that their horse's "balance" has been addressed. That owner then becomes a disciple of the church of "hoof balance", having been baptized with 20 minutes of commentary about how imperative "balance" is for optimum performance and soundness. (Too bad their idiot last farrier didn't understand that.)
It's worth noting that many of the professionals who preach balance, balance, balance as their primary sermon are not necessarily trying to scam the owner. It is what they were taught and this routine assessment and subsequent dog and pony show was modelled for them to emulate. The owner doesn't question it and they themselves have found no need to question it either. A few questions though, and the whole thing comes unraveled. Let me make my case.
Hoof balance can be divided into two common categories of assessment. "Dynamic Balance" refers to assessment of balance while the horse is in motion. The horse is led back and forth and the farrier intently watches how the hoof contacts the ground. He has likely been taught that a flat and perhaps slightly heel first landing is the ideal illustration of balance and his job then as he sees it, is to attempt to trim or shoe the horse in a manner to achieve this ideal. This farrier, or vet, has been influenced to value this and prioritize it as a worthy pursuit. Whether a flat hoof landing is truly ideal is up for debate though, and horses can land differently at different gaits, which sort of devalues the effort, but whatever, that's "dynamic balance".
Alternatively we have "Static Balance", static balance is assessed while the horse is standing. But here's the rub. Static balance and dynamic balance are mutually exclusive. In other words, efforts to manipulate the hoof to achieve one, worsens the other. If you want to shoe or trim a horse for dynamic balance, the end result will often be horrendous static balance. To call this problematic would be an understatement. In the veterinary and farrier world, you will find well respected professionals that focus on and prioritize one or the other (dynamic or static evaluations). This means the phrase "hoof balance" can look like two entirely different things to professionals on either side of this divide. The fact that a horse can be both "out of balance" by one professional's perspective and simultaneously "in balance" by another professional's perspective, begins to expose the absurdity.
But let's keep going and look at how static balance is assessed. Professionals are taught many different methods of evaluating "balance" and therefore "balance" can look very different to different eyes. Some conflate symmetry with "balance". They may use the word "balance", but they are analyzing the symmetry of the hoof. Humans have an innate affinity towards symmetry, but unfortunately asymmetrical hooves are just the consequence of the developmental process. Hooves come in distinctly right and left forms due to the body weight being center to the hooves. Even coffin bones set on a table can often be identified as right or left given the common asymmetries of each. Symmetrical force would produce a symmetrical hoof, but that would only be possible if the horse had one leg rather than 4. None the less, we have a grouping of farriers and vets, who will judge symmetry and use the word balance. These words aren't really synonymous, but whatever.
Then we have another group of professionals who conflate "level" with "balance". These professionals will sight down the hoof, holding the front canon bone, looking to see what side is "high". Sometimes they will use a visual aid called a T-square in this process. That adds to the professionalism. Unfortunately while sighting an unloaded hoof, the joint spaces are wide open, and a much different plane relative to the joints may exist when these joint spaces are closed and loaded (a consideration that usually doesn't creep into the analysis). This begs the question, what good is it for the hoof to be "balanced" in the air and "unbalanced" on the ground? But we'll set that aside. Assessing level and referring to it as balance is pretty common, and trimming this "high" side down to match the "low" side can be problematic if taken too seriously. If one side of the hoof is deficient in depth, making the other side deficient as well and calling it "balance" is like letting all the air out of your good passenger side tire when you have a flat on the drivers side. This assessment also fails to consider bone morphology that we'll look at further in a minute.
But first, yet another group of professionals are the measurers. This group assesses their concept of balance under the belief that the medial and lateral wall should be the same length. If the lateral wall is measurably longer (or visually longer as they view the hoof from the front), then surely it should be trimmed until these numbers match or the visual satisfies. This group seems to conflate the word "balance" with the word "equal". But, as we said before, hooves come in right and left shapes. Conformation and chest width have an influence, but it is common for the lateral wall to be more acutely angled and the medial wall to be more upright. (The side of the hoof subject to the most load will typically be more upright.) To show the problem with the conclusions drawn from this assessment, consider the legs on a table. They can be of equal length if they are attached at the same angle. But one leg is angled outward, it must be longer to reach the ground. When the trajectory is different, the length too must be different in order to span the same vertical distance. What would shortening the longer angled table leg achieve?
By now, it should be obvious that symmetry is not "balance", level is not "balance", and equal is not "balance". It should also be obvious that a "level" hoof may not be symmetrical and an "equal" hoof may not be level, and that these are all methods that discount the validity of one another's claim on "balance".
So if things were not complicated enough, let's add another element to the discussion. All the talk surrounding the importance of hoof balance always assumes a perfectly balanced limb. That's never the reality. Distortion from an ideal skeletal structure differs from what is ideal for a distorted skeletal structure. Compensations and adaptations are part of nature. In theory, if we could attach a perfectly "balanced" hoof to an imbalanced limb, the result would not be harmonious. Hooves do not spontaneously distort without cause and it is wise to consider why a hoof may present in such a way that it is labelled "out of balance". It is my opinion that the hoof is more often the victim than the culprit. Or in other words, the hoof is a reflection of the forces it has had to endure. When those forces are not "balanced" how can you expect the hoof to be. Too often we assume the hoof is the origin of the problem, but it is where problems elsewhere tend to manifest. This is a fixed mechanical linkage once growth plates are set.
But we aren't done with this subject yet.....
Now cometh technology. Namely the radiograph. Comments on medial lateral hoof balance are often made based on a DP rad. On this view a few things can be noted. One is medial lateral joint congruency. Many vets are trained to assess "hoof balance" based upon whether the coffin joint appears "compressed" on one side or the other. So, regardless of how "level", "symmetrical" or "equal" the outward appearance of the hoof may be, if this joint space isn't congruent, the hoof may (in their opinion) require some degree of adjustment. In other words, the hoof is presumed "unbalanced" based on the joint spacing. The issue with this is the reliability of the assessment. The vet or vet tech positions the (often sedated) horse's hooves upon the blocks, dictating foot placement, stance, and posture. The position of the foot influences this assessment. The percentage of weight on the hoof also influences this assessment. A horse that is shifting it's weight or not distributing the weight equally at the time the button is pushed to take the image influences this assessment. Even the slight turning of the horse's head can influence this assessment. So we must be cognizant of these things and careful not to read too much into an image that can be misleading when used for this purpose. (I wouldn't condone it, but manipulating or let's say correcting a horse's postural stance for the second set of x-rays is often enough to resolve the perceived hoof imbalance.)
Another thing we can see on a radiograph is the M/L plane of the coffin bone. The DIPJ joint plane and the ventral plane of the coffin bone are not always parallel. The bottom of the coffin bone is prone to bone loss and remodeling over time. This M/L sole plane is often a reflection of this. In other words, the hoof will appear "unlevel" and "unbalanced" though the joint may be perfectly level and "balanced". But what happens when the vet or farrier attempts to address this imbalance? They in turn create an "imbalance" in the joint. This is why the M/L sole plane cannot be relied upon as an indicator of "balance".
{The most reliable marker to note in a DP rad is not the joint spacing or the ventral plane of P3, it is the two small dark spots in the coffin bone that show the adjacent foramen through which the medial and lateral branches of the palmar digital artery & vein enters the bone and forms an anastomosis within the bone called the terminal arch. These two foramen are constant. Uninfluenced by bone loss or stance. If you are looking for a reliable feature to assess M/L "balance", these may be your best bet.}
To wrap it up, 25 different farriers and vets can have 35 different visualizations of what "hoof balance" looks like. They all have a different preference for assessing it. Each method disregards the others, and no hoof can be "in balance" by all these standards. So, if there is no consensus. And if "balance" means different things to different people, then it is largely subjective. It is essentially meaningless and does not exist as one specific thing. The word "balance" is vague enough that a professional can use the word whenever it is convenient, but when we are using words for their convenience, that convenience is usually a smoke screen to conceal a lack of knowledge and understanding.
Is "hoof balance" important? Meh. I'll say depth is important. I'm on team depth. Hoof depth trumps balance. I don't think the ground surface is "balanced". I don't think the horse's limb is "balanced". I don't think the forces that are placed upon the hoof are "balanced". But in this sea of imbalance the hoof must be (and by who's definition)? When medial lateral disparities are severe enough to predispose a horse to lameness it is usually conformational rather than merely an inattentiveness on the farrier's behalf. I'm a fan of utilizing all the information we can derive from the hoof to inform how we address the hoof. I think all these methods together paint a picture. But then I do not believe in forcing a hoof to be what it is not. I'd rather respect the hoof it has, imperfect as it may be, with the understanding that such is nature. I wish I was 6'5". I'm not. I wish that hoof was "perfect". It's not. Whatever.

09/18/2025

A good question from the other day; "Can you see any advantage to shoeing a horse behind for sore hocks?"
I think it is important that professionals maintain credibility by being honest about our limitations. In my opinion, if your horse is barefoot behind and you've been led to believe it has sore hocks, applying shoes isn't going to help much with that. Typically, the further away from the foot the problem is, the less impact the shoe has. That is generally true. But,..... a horseshoe may increase traction on some footing which prevents the hoof from rotating with the hock as the horse pivots. When the foot is locked to the ground, torque is exerted on the joints and the skeletal structure above it. Whatever is too weak to withstand that torque may then be damaged. Perhaps that manifests in a spiral fracture, or perhaps that shearing force instead wreaks it's havoc on the least stable joint. It is much better in my opinion for the hoof to pivot with the limb. I'll add a back story to explain how I came to this opinion.
Many years ago I shod a very nice and very expensive horse for a good friend. During that time I was in a forging phase, and I modified the hind shoes with a lateral trailer, clips, and what was at the time being called "thumbprint heels". There was absolutely no reason behind my doing any of this. I had seen this combination of shoe mods in a magazine, thought it looked sexy, and was just showing off. I was pretty sure the horse's owner would like it, and she did. It did in fact look sexy. I challenged myself, I used the horse to test my skill and practice, and it looked just as the magazine photo did. I was satisfied. Then the horse was turned out in the paddock and we all sat on the back of a truck and visited. As we talked, I saw this horse running the fence line, being vocal to the horses in the adjacent paddock, back and forth it ran, full of pent up energy. I then saw the horse rear up on it's hind legs and twist it's body around, only I saw the leg didn't twist. The horse twisted over it's right rear leg, but the leg didn't twist with the horse. When you are accustomed to seeing what is normal, you immediately see something that is abnormal and also immediately I knew why that foot didn't twist atop the ground with the leg. I had added a modification that increased rotational traction. 25 years later I cannot honestly recall the specificity of the injury. I cannot say it wrecked it's hock, or if it was a fracture. I don't remember. But the horse was euthanized. Lesson learned. Lesson #1, Don't do unnecessary crap just to show off. and lesson #2, increasing traction and preventing the hoof from twisting on top of the ground can be at best detrimental and at worst catastrophic.
If you've ever ridden behind many horses, you'll know that some horses are more twisty on their hind end than others. (By twisty, I mean the hock twists outward and the foot twists with it.) While you will hear differences of opinions amongst professionals about how to limit this action, my opinion, for obvious reasons given the story, is let it twist. Don't lock the foot in place. Adding a shoe is going to increase the traction and lessen or stop that twisting of the hoof, and if the hoof cannot twist then something else will.

I got bored with this page and haven't posted anything in like a year. So here's a picture of a founder case. Maybe I'll...
09/05/2025

I got bored with this page and haven't posted anything in like a year. So here's a picture of a founder case. Maybe I'll start back making some posts.

If I had a nickel for every time this thought crossed my mind
01/05/2025

If I had a nickel for every time this thought crossed my mind

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