03/21/2022
THIS PAGE IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE NYS DEPT OF MENTAL HEALTH.
Hello,
After 5+ years, I will no longer be answering messages on this page. The messages I receive are almost always one of the following four questions, so here are the answers:
Q: Can I book a tour?
A: No. Old Main is not regularly open for tours. You cannot book a tour. When tours are announced, they are advertised via Utica-area media, such as WKTV and the Utica O-D.
Q: But I want a tour...
A: Seriously, I cannot help you. Old Main is owned and run by the NYS Dept. of Mental Health. This is the only contact I have for them regarding Old Main: OldMainTours@omh.ny.gov
Q: My relative/ancestor was a patient at Old Main. How do I find their records?
A: Most institutional records in the U.S. (asylums, hospitals, orphanages) were sealed when HIPAA came into effect, even if the records are too old for the statute to technically apply. This is a common frustration for genealogists.
There is no easy way to research an ancestor who was institutionalized. The only readily available records are federal and state census records (which list “inmates” in residence during that year), local newspapers (fultonhistory.com) for obits, “incidents” and runaways, or death certificates (accessibility varies based on year of death).
Estate executors or those with power of attorney at time of death may have some legal standing to access records. We have not heard of any success stories in accessing patient files through legal channels.
Q: Can I hunt for ghosts at Old Main?
A: Old Main is commonly noted as a haunted location for those who believe in ghosts. I’ve answered this before, but hunting for the possibly tortured/trapped spirits of people’s deceased relatives at a former asylum is a pretty brutal and insensitive past time.
I’m a historian, so I try to interpret, not preach, but I seriously draw the line on this one. Old Main is a sensitive historical site, both for surviving patients, their families, and descendants of people who were institutionalized at Old Main. Their suffering is not for your amusement. Learn from it, but don’t make light of it. The site is still an active psychiatric campus. Be respectful.
THIS PAGE IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE NYS DEPT OF MENTAL HEALTH. This page was established to share photos and historical accounts of Old Main.